eateroftrees:

genderbitch:

I used autism as the best example of a neurodivergence that completely diverges from the needs of disorders and mental illnesses that have real internal pain to them. Thanks for assuming that was about you.

I’d previously mentioned that I was autistic to you and assumed you remembered this fact, sorry for the assumption.

Of course the fact that you think that autism does not have “real internal pain” and feel the need to explain this, as an allistic person, to an autistic person, despite the fact that it is blatantly untrue, is still a rather significant problem.

Fair enough. Consider all examples using autism scrapped from my statements. I’ll use depression and ADD from now on, which illustrate my point just fine.

When they both get lumped into neurodivergence without a damn thought to the differences in the needs, we end up getting blanket statements that fuck over one or the other. Or both. Which I am fucking tired of.

Yes disabilities are not all the same and we do know this?  That’s why its an umbrella term?  There’s very little in common between OCD and mild depression* but they’re still both mental illnesses.

I’m not sure where you’re getting this.  It certainly isn’t from me.  (Maybe some of the creepy ableist aspies, or the more creepy anti-psychiatry groups, it sounds like something they’d do >.<)

(*except there is quite a bit in common just not superficially.  For that matter, there’s very little superficially in common between anxiety and a tooth infection, but they’re both considered illness and I’ve gotten emergency medical care for both, so…)

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Yet I am getting it from you.

H and I were discussing the way certain types of mental illness were treated. A subcategory of neurodivergence. You came in and pointed out something that affected different subcategories of neurodivergence (attempts to modify and medicate the divergence out of people) using neurodivergence as the term as tho you were correcting us about shit.

That’s about as getting it from you as I can get right now. It was a blanket statement from you, who acted as tho you were correcting us about something that we hadn’t even said anything about. Cuz I sure as fuck know that as someone with severe depression, I need to be medicated to a point of normality or I’ll end up killing myself. 

And I swallowed my anger and explained what we were talking about and why the “correction” if you can even call it that, wasn’t warranted.

So how about you use your knowledge of how neurodivergence is an umbrella term and when people are talking about a specific subcategory, you don’t slide in and treat them like they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.

And avoid further insulting one of them by telling her (A neurodivergent mentally ill woman) that she doesn’t know what neurodivergence means.

Thanks.