Forgive me if I’m awfully mistaken here, but I think this particular page not covering trans women isn’t erasure by anyone’s standards. If there were a second one covering a range of MAAB bodies, and there was no representation there, then there’d be an erasure problem.
Facts are, FAAB kids aren’t massively likely to grow up into trans women. This picture is showing a range of FAAB bodies, not female bodies. You are finding issue with entirely the wrong thing, if you ask me. This picture is a damn good thing.
(I’m obviously working under the assumption that the third-on-the-bottom-row person’s androgyny isn’t without reason.)I forgive you for being awfully mistaken here. There are plenty of women, including trans women who are androgynous and I sincerely doubt this person was trying to include trans guys in this with the whole barbie spiel up at the top.
It’s erasure cuz this is pretty clearly about women (body image issues based on a doll marketed exclusively to girls) and trans women, regardless of being MAAB (and some aren’t, there are unassigned folks too), are still WOMEN.
And ergo, something about women should include all women.
Personally, I can’t see how the Barbie spiel discounts the possibility of trans guys being included. You’d really have to ask the person behind this picture before you can jump to the assumption that anyone is or is not being erased.
If there were a second page, much like this one, with a little boy and an Action Man, and there was a feminine/androgynous person in the second picture who one could assume might possibly be trans, would that then fix it?
You’re obviously right about the whole body image thing, but in the end it says ‘people’, not ‘women’ (if it did, I’d have fewer qualms). FAAB kids, as I said, don’t tend to grow up into trans women - with a few exceptions, of course.
We’re both working under a tonne of assumptions, of course, but I just think it’s not right to go on about how this picture is wrong without it being in any real context or without wholly knowing what its creator intended of it.Even if we are operating under the assumption of people, trans women are still excluded since the body image stuff of barbies does still affect CAMAB individuals who have bodily dissonance or gender dysphoria aligned towards womanhood or female associated structure. This is not a CAFAB only thing and any claim of such is just as erasing as this picture.
The simple fact that a child is asking if their body would be like the barbie requires that trans women be included since those same pressures affect many, if not the majority of us.
So either way, there’s erasure of trans women and bullshit here.
I’m far more inclined to believe that the maker of this didn’t take trans people into account at all though, since that’s the common result.
Oh, I’d never claim that the whole body image stuff is a FAAB-only thing. Hell no. I’m just taking this picture from a fairly literal perspective, along the ‘no, kiddo, you could grow up to look like any of these people down here and that’s perfectly okay’ line of thought.
‘Cos…yeah. That’s what I saw when I looked at this picture.
That was certainly the line of thought. Although you can’t really take this literally cuz how many white children grow up to be black? Which opens up another nasty can of worms with the everychild version up top being white.
Anyways, none of this changes the fact that this erased trans women, many of whom are subject to all the same pressures related to that doll.
In fact, if this is just about people in general facing body image pressures from barbies, that makes the erasure of trans women even more vile because then the person really ought to have known since they expanded it to a far larger zone.
